How to Build A Retirement Paycheck From Your Investments

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For decades, you’ve been diligently saving and building your nest egg to insure you’ll have a shot at maintaining an acceptable lifestyle in retirement.   Once your working years are over, the focus becomes how to generate retirement income from the wealth you’ve built over your career.  Or, in other words;

“How To Build A Retirement Paycheck”

Moving from an “Accumulation Phase” to a “Withdrawal Phase” is one of the most significant financial changes that comes with retirement.  Unfortunately, there’s much less written about how to generate an income in retirement than there is about your Accumulation Phase.  Today, we’ll address the Withdrawal Phase, outlining a strategy I’ll be using in my retirement.

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How To Build A Retirement Paycheck From Your Investments

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The Bucket Strategy

A common approach to setting your investments up for the withdrawal phase is to establish a “Bucket Strategy”, originally conceived by financial planning guru Harold Evensky (for a video of him discussing the strategy, click here) . Even though I’m still several years away from retirement, I’ve already been working on setting this up, and will share the specific approach I’m using.  First, a description of each bucket.

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Bucket One:  “The Cash Bucket”

The cash bucket should be fully liquid, risk free and readily available.  Depending on your risk tolerance, you should target to fill Bucket One with anywhere from 1-3 years of spending requirements not covered with other income (e.g., pension, social security, annuities).  Your goal here is NOT to generate a high return, but rather to protect your spending requirements over the next few years.

To avoid sequence risk (having to sell stocks during a downturn), get your bucket filled PRIOR to your retirement date.  I’m doing that now, and I’m ~2 years away from retirement.  As a more conservative investor, I’m targeting 3 years of spending in Bucket One.  Why?  From 1966 to 2009, it’s taken the S&P 500 three years, on average, to return to it’s pre-crash high.  You want sufficient cash in Bucket One to ride out a bear market.

Before retiring, insure you have sufficient assets to cover your annual spending requirement with a safe withdrawal rate of 4% or less (we’ll be targeting 3% in our retirement).  For example, if you have $1 Million saved, 3 – 4% would give you a safe withdrawal rate of $30,000 – 40,000/year.  A reasonable “Bucket One target level” for someone planning on spending $40k per year would be $80k – $120k.

To insure you stay within your safe withdrawal rate, set up at least one year of your “cash bucket” in a seperate account (I’m using CapitalOne), then establish an automatic monthly or bi-weekly transfer from that account into your checking account.  Once it’s in place, you’ve established a “retirement paycheck”.

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Bucket Two:  “The Income Bucket”

The Income Bucket has a goal of generating income with controlled risk.  Since you’ll be using the funds in this bucket to periodically “refill” Bucket One, you want to keep a focus on stability.  However, to insure your investments are producing results and keeping up with inflation, you have to take some risk.  While Bucket One is “No Risk, No Return”, you can think of Bucket Two as “Some Risk, Some Return”.

Investments in Bucket Two should focus on high quality fixed income assets (bonds, REIT‘s), with a smaller compliment of stable dividend paying stocks (e.g., JNJ) and other higher yield securities (MLP‘s, BDC‘s, etc). “Balanced” mutual funds with a blend of bonds and conservative stocks could also be considered for this bucket, as can mutual funds focused on dividends.  In my portfolio, I consider my holdings in Vanguard’s Wellesley (VWINX) and Dividend Growth Fund (VDIGX) as elements of Bucket Two.

If you’re very conservative, consider this advice from Darrow Kirkpatrick and aim for 10 years of spending between cash and bonds.  In that scenario, Bucket Two could represent 7-8 years of spending.  For our $40k spender, that’d mean a reasonable target level for Bucket Two would be somewhere between $280k – $320k.

Several times per year (I’ll target quarter-ends) look for any asset class which has performed well, and sell portions of those investments to refill the cash in Bucket One.  If (more accurately, when) we enter a major bear market, draw down the level of Bucket One for 1-2 years to allow time for your riskier assets to rebound.  Alternatively, you can divert your dividend and interest earnings from Buckets Two and Three as a steady stream of cash into Bucket One.  I think of the “dividend diversion” as a “Drip Refill” strategy, and plan on using that in my retirement.

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Bucket Three:  Long Term Growth

With the longest time frame, you shouldn’t have to tap the money in Bucket Three for ~10 years. Therefore, it’s focus is to generate the long term returns possible through stocks.  Only stocks have demonstrated an ability to consistently outpace inflation.  In fact, according to this article Meb Faber research, stocks have earned 5% over inflation in the past 10 years, compared to 2% for bonds and 1% for T-Bills/cash.

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This bucket will have swings in value as the stock market does it’s normal thing.  Since you don’t need to worry about accessing the money for 10 years, you can sleep at night through the next bear market, knowing that things will most likely recover before you need to tap into this stash.  Don’t panic and sell in a bear, which will turn your paper loss into a real one.  Likewise, look for strong market performance timeframes to siphon off some of the gains and diverting the funds to Buckets 1 & 2, locking the gains in for future use.

The Bucket Strategy – A Summary

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How To Implement The Bucket Strategy

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I’ve added a tab in our personal net worth spreadsheet, and have linked all of the line items from our individual accounts into their appropriate buckets.  Here’s a screen shot from my spreadsheet, which I’ve modified a bit (e.g., not my actual $ amounts, I’ve eliminated the name of investment holdings, and I’ve adjusted the target amounts to reflect the $40k of annual spending used as an earlier example).

I’m using this exact format for our personal retirement planning, and will plan on updating our actual bucket holdings once per year as I’m updating our Net Worth Statement.  At the end of every Quarter, I’ll review holdings for potential reallocation to insure I’m within the target ranges for each bucket.

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Note:  I’ve also set up a link to the spreadsheet created for this post if you’d like to work with it as a template. To access the spreadsheet, click here.

Conclusion

Managing your money during the Withdrawal Phase is significantly different than during the Accumulation Phase. Take the time to understand the differences before you reach retirement, and work to align your investments to deliver a predictable retirement paycheck for the rest of your life!

If you’re already in retirement, consider setting up a bucket system, especially if you’ve been having difficulties keeping track of your spending.  Start with Bucket One, and establish a monthly automatic transfer into your checking account.

I’d welcome any of my readers who are already in retirement to comment on this post, let us know any other suggestions you’d recommend based on your actual experience.  If you use something other than the “Bucket Strategy”, I’d welcome your thoughts on why you chose to go a different route, and how it’s working out for you.

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My First Infographic!!

To support this article, I just produced my first infographic, using The Bucket Strategy as my topic.  Enjoy!

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40 comments

  1. Holy crap! This is awesome. The bulk of my strategy, as you know, is the glidepath strategy advocated by Pfau/Kitces. But unbeknownst to me, I was also including some elements of the bucket strategy as well. For instance, Mrs. Groovy and I have at least four years of expenses sitting in the bank already. This “cash bucket” is surely overkill, but we anticipate buying a new-to-us car in the next few years. Our brokerage accounts also produce between $13K and $15K in dividends each year. My goal was grab this money every January. But perhaps monthly or quarterly transfers to our checking account makes more sense.

    I love the Bucket Strategy spreadsheet, Fritz. I never thought of that. I’ve downloaded your template and will begin working on it this week. I’m still going Pfau/Kitces/Collins, but that approach may be too conservative. Damn this retirement stuff is hard!

    It never hurts to compare one’s plan to others. The bucket strategy is an excellent way to handle sequence of returns risk and manage one’s income in retirement. Thank you for explaining it so well. And don’t be surprised if I have a post in the next few weeks extolling the virtues of the Pfau/Kitces/Collins/Fritz approach to managing the withdrawal phase.

    Talk to you soon, my friend. Cheers.

    1. Holy Crap!? Wow, that’s quite a compliment! Funny, I was thinking about you this morning, thinking about how one could merge both the bucket strategy and Pfau/Kitces strategy. Amazing minds think alike, my friend! Glad the spreadsheet was of help!! Look forward to hearing how your retirement paycheck unfolds, given that you’re a few years ahead of me (hey, I’ll take any help I can get from those who walk the path ahead of me!!).

  2. Hi Fritz,

    This is my first visit to your blog. Fantastic post, I downloaded the spreadsheet and I am going to be playing with it – I am long ways away from retirement.

    I would like to point to you Robert Schiller’s (Yale University) course where he talks about asset allocation between stocks and bonds. This chart was eye opening for me. The chart is Expected Annual Return vs. Standard Deviation of Return as you a sweep in 10% increments between stock and bond allocation.

    What you will notice is that 50 stock / 50 bond has the same (risk profile) standard deviation of return as that of a portfolio with 100% bonds.

    This chart provides insight based on historic risk / return data for you to optimize your asset allocation.

    Course Lecture Link – http://oyc.yale.edu/economics/econ-252-11/lecture-4

    Course Lecture PDF: http://oyc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/Lect04DiversifyS.pdf, slide number 5 has the chart.

    –Michael

    1. Michael, welcome to The Retirement Manifesto! I appreciate your comment on your first visit! Great links, thanks for making the site even better by sharing the information! Glad to have you on board, look forward to interacting with you in the future. Thanks again.

  3. Fritz,
    Thanks for the great post! Your Retirement Cashflow spreadsheet has become my one of my favorites. I am retiring at the end of the year (at age 50!) and have been thinking about my spending strategy as I head into this new phase. I am going to spend some quality time with the Bucket Strategy spreadsheet this week. I always look forward to a new post from The Retirement Manifesto!

    Warm Regards,
    Alison Slade

    1. “…has become one of my favorites.” WOW, that’s a real honor, thanks for the compliment!! Sounds like my Bucket Strategy article was published at EXACTLY when you need it! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me (IM on Twitter @retiremanifesto probably easiest way to reach me).

  4. Enjoyed reading this Fritz. Great summary and very clearly laid out.

    I will add that our strategy is mighty similar. Indeed we own some of the same funds in bucket two. We have a person that will pay out an annuity as soon as I pull the plug so our bucket one size factors that differential into what we need for safety net based on the pension “income floor”.

    I wonder what you think of the nice work done by Darrow on the CAPE withdrawal strategy. I.e looking at CAPE on a yearly basis to decide when to sell bonds or equities. His work looks very solid and can lead to massive differences in ultimate size of the nest egg over the years.

    Still wrestling with how much we need in US vs ex US equities. Such a great run for US stocks over the last decade you think it can’t last. I am however still in JLC camp of plenty international exposure can be gained from large US corporations that operate globally. Yet we own some emerging market, developed market ex US based funds and may increase that exposure a little more.

    1. Mr PIE – Yes, I’ve looked at Darrow’s CAPE, and I like it. I’m thinking along the same lines as you, and plan on using valuation metrics like CAPE to help determine when to “refill” buckets by selling various asset classes. I’ve also increased my ex-US Equity allocation slighly over the past 3-6 months. I don’t disagree with JLC, but I like to have clear “International Funds” so I can intentionally buy/sell international exposure to adjust my asset allocation. Thanks for your comments, nice add to the site!

  5. I really like the bucket strategy. It was super easy to follow along and I love the infographic. I will definitely be downloading and playing around with the spreadsheet this weekend. Thanks for sharing!!!

    1. Glad the infographic was helpful. I “self-taught” myself how to build one yesterday, kinda fun. Pleased it adds value to the content! Thx for your comments!

    1. Maggie, your FIRST post on my site! So excited to see your name, I LOVE your work!! Welcome aboard The Retirement Manifesto!

    1. CLASSIC!!!! Wow, Doc, you’re “On FIRE” Tonight! Great poem, means a lot to me that you took the time to write that. Nice getting to know you out here, looking forward to meeting you at #FinCon17!!

  6. Very well done Fritz. I too am a fan of the bucket strategy.

    To me, the strategy’s real strength comes from its behavioral finance advantage over other strategies. As Michael Kitces has noted (https://www.kitces.com/blog/managing-sequence-of-return-risk-with-bucket-strategies-vs-a-total-return-rebalancing-approach/), the real behind-the-scenes work from the strategy actually comes from the total return/rebalancing that is implicitly built into the strategy.

    But for folks living off of their portfolios, it is much easier to conceptualize one’s portfolio in terms of “buckets.” Importantly, then, because of the mode’s intuitive nature people actually avoid selling equities during down turns, which helps avoid the sequence of return problem. The strategy thus seems to fair much better with real people in the real world, which matters a lot.

    So again, well done and thanks for your good work.

    Best regards,

    Mr. FIDough
    https://fidoughhub.com/

    P.S. Sorry you couldn’t make #FinCon16, but hope to see you at #FinCon17!

  7. Hi Fritz,

    Thanks for this. I am still far enough away from retirement that I haven’t got that detailed a plan, but information like this is very useful for all of us! I had not seen nor heard of such an approach before.

    Cheers,

    Paulie

  8. I like this concept but cannot figure out how to split it all between regular investments, traditional IRAs and Roth IRAs.

    1. Valid question, Tom. While I didn’t get into “tax treatment buckets”, I also have been intentional on diversifying my investments between each of the three tax treatments you mention. It’s important to have options when you enter retirement, as they will allow you to work some tax minimization strategies in the withdrawal phase. It’s outside the scope of this article, but you should seek to have some level of funding in After Tax, Before Tax (IRA) and Roth.

      1. Fritz

        Great article well explained. Have you considered a follow-up article on the details of re-balancing or already done one?
        I assume you let Bucket 3 grow until you need funds for Bucket 2 based on your pre-set criteria. Once you determine that you need to fill Bucket 2, then you start looking at Bucket 3. Let’ say B3 is up 5% and you now want to take that 5% (or less I guess based on needs of B2) and send it to Bucket 2.
        Next is that, while the portfolio is up by 5% it will be mixed, some assets will have grown far beyond 5% while others are down. Do you re-balance B3 before pulling the 5% or take the 5% from the high flier(s)?
        This same scenario would happen in B2 to B1.

        Cheers,

        Frank

        1. Frank, good suggestion for a follow-up article. I’ll be a bit less methodical when it comes to refilling the buckets. I really like the CAPE valuation strategy outlined by many online (e.g, Darrow Kirkpatrick), and think it’s a good metric to use to sell equities when they’re over-valued, but sell bonds when the equities are depressed. My plan is to occasionally (quarterly?) scan my portfolio and “pick off” a few shares of higher priced funds. Since I won’t have to worry about it until I’m at least a year into retirement, I haven’t defined a more scientific approach than that at this point.

          1. This answered one of my questions thank you! I had looked into the bucket strategy several years ago and had even set up my grandparents trust using it. Somehow my mom had become responsible for it and had it all sitting in cash despite needing to cover some expenses decades out. Simple math showed it wasn’t going to last how it was.

            The problem with this strategy and my whole investment philosophy at the time is that there is an assumption that CAPE will return to the mean. This is very dangerous because there is a very real difference in circumstances that make stocks the highest expected return even with a historically high CAPE right now. So where do you draw the line that says CAPE is too high and it is time to replenish bucket 2? Or even bucket 1 for that matter?

            What kind of drag are all of these low possibly negative real returning assets creating on your portfolio? Have you seen a side by side back tested comparison? Also remember that you can’t set the cutoff points based on the data you use. This was one of my errors when I first looked at this.

          2. Zack, thanks for your comment (sorry I couldn’t reply below it, would only let me reply here). I’m glad you’ve gotten involved in your Mom’s Bucket Strategy, clearly more than ~3 years of cash is excessive, regardless of investor sentiment or caution.

            I agree with your concerns on current CAPE’s, and implications for timing to shuffle your buckets. Given that your Mom has so much cash, it’s a difficult time to reallocate. I’d suggest you target tranches over the next 12-18 months, and gradually rebalance her into stocks/bonds as appropriate for buckets 2-3. Not sure what your reference is when you state stocks have “high expectation of returns” in spite of today’s high CAPE. Work I’ve seen (e.g., Kitces) says future returns should be muted during the “mean reversion”, and I agree with the outlook that returns from stocks will be below average over the next ~5+ years. That’s the primary reason I’m sitting on 40% bond and 10% Alternative allocation at the moment.

            In our case, we’ll be looking to refill buckets 1-2 during periods of high CAPE. When the CAPE is lower, we’ll tend to draw down the levels in the buckets, or rebalance with bonds. I do expect overall portfolio returns to be “below average”, and am planning a lower than recommended withdrawal rate as compensation.

            Hope that helps answer your questions, thanks for stopping by!

  9. Hi

    I am also a fan of the bucket strategy, however, how often would you normally refill each of the first two buckets? Would it be any different to just take the “paycheck” directly from the equity bucket during the good years, and just use the two first buckets as a buffer zone in the case of market recessions, and then refill once the market bounces back? Why constantly fiddle around and moving money from one bucket to the other even during good years?

    1. Good question, EW. Theoretically, you could do as you suggest. Net effect should be the same. I’m planning on keeping 1-3 years in Bucket 1. I’ll likely work to keep it “topped off” at the 3 year mark if the market’s doing well (sell equities as I’m pulling my paycheck from Bucket 1, hence the same net effect as your concept), and let it drop down to 1 year if we’re in a Bear. Similar approach for Bucket 2.

      1. Thank you for the answer! Another question on my mind has been how often one should do the withdrawals, that is equity sales. Once a year? Once every 6 months? Once a quarter? Every month? Or some other indicator that says it’s time to sell? (Of course, the sales should only occur during a positive market return, otherwise the cash bucket would be used.)

        1. EW, good question. In our case, we’re leaning more toward your last option (“indicator says it’s time to sell”). We’ll be watching the CAPE ratio closely, and timing our sales based on feeling rather than a strict schedule. There’s both art and science, let’s hope we get it right!

  10. Great article!
    I also use a similar bucket strategy, but mine is a bit different as I am self employed and location independent.
    I have bucket 1 already set up with 2 years of expenses saved in a liquid account.
    My bucket #2 is a rental income that covers 75% of our expenses.
    The bucket #3 is income I get from my job that I still enjoy and only put in 4 hours a day. I like having something to do every day, especially with the fact I can do it from anywhere in the World.
    My bucket #4 is my Vanguard portfolio that generates 50% of my expenses.
    I guess my fear is putting all my eggs in 1 bucket, so I try to diversify so I’m able to get income from different buckets at any given time.
    Do you think that’s overkill?

    1. FS, thanks for laying out your strategy. My “buckets” are more “Time Phase” (earlier buckets fit for earlier years), whereas it sounds like yours are more “asset allocation” based. Either approach would work, as long as the approach works for you! That’s why we call it “Personal” Finance, right!

      1. Amen to that!
        out of curiosity, where do you put, or do you account for the social security income that you will probably receive in your 60’s or at 70?

        i am really enjoying reading your blog..

        1. Thanks for the kind words, Frugal! When we get to the point where Social Security will start flowing in ~15 years (Age 70, max that deferral!), we’ll simply include that in our calculation for how much of a “Paycheck” we have to establish from our Bucket 1 Capital One account. All things being equal, the amount of the “paycheck” we establish will be equal to our spending minus the incremental from SS. I’ve got a 40 year “Retirement Cash Flow model” where I flow it by year, with my most recent SS estimates. Hope that answers your question, thanks again for the encouragement.

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